Comments on: Line-Of-Business vs. Beautifulness or two dogmas comparison as exemplified by two Twitter applications

By: Clelia Kevan

Clelia Kevan — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:46:50 +0000

[..] A little unrelated, but I totally liked this site post [..]

By: jim

jim — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:18:34 +0000

The version of *chirp (now blu, btw) you reviewed was the *very first* rev. How many incarnations has TwitterFox seen? Blu now runs at around 50mb on my comp, and many report it runs faster on different systems. thirteen23 has also added more features since this review– they do incredible wpf. Do you know the term, “crabs in a bucket?’

By: Tamir

Tamir — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:10:41 +0000

I’m not judging the application, I’m judging the way it built.

By: Avatar

Avatar — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:39:25 +0000

Too early to judge it this way since Chirp had only 2 0.1 point release updates (publicly) and TwitterFox has something like 50 (yes,count them) already.

I know because i followed the progression of both so far since they started.

TwitterFox also started as a notification tool only , then a notification and simple tweet input and then finally jumped to be a full Twitter Client.

By: Tamir

Tamir — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:41:25 +0000

There are more, then one people under “designers” I mean.
The general flow, that worked for me was: User Experience Expert – Developer + Graphic Designers – XAMLelist
We spoke a lot about it in WPF disciples:
http://groups.google.co.il/group/wpf-disciples/browse_thread/thread/98fd213d9a7ee93b/48ca4cc07a7a67dd

By: Paul Stovell

Paul Stovell — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:11:50 +0000

I think the designers you wrote about would probably be classed by Alan Cooper as graphic designers rather than interaction designers. Good interaction designers would tend to take a more holistic view towards the application: it needs to be beautiful, but also small, fast, designed for keyboarders, and so on. I also think it’s a bit unfair that just because some graphical designers got the interaction model wrong, that all designers only care about looks and nothing else.

By: Tamir

Tamir — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:57:42 +0000

Yes, I completely agree with you, Paulo. That’s exactly, what I’m evangelizing. Developers should provide prototype, then designers should beautify it together with additional functionality, provided by developers and so on…

By: Paulo Quicoli

Paulo Quicoli — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:32:03 +0000

Hi. I agree with you. Designers are focused in visuals not in functionality. I think when we have a design team and devepment team separated, developers should build kind of skeleton interface, describe necessary working functionallity and say “designers, this app. does this all, please, get a better interface for it, but dont change its functions”. In WPF using M-V-VM pattern, this is easy, since logic is not inside UI Layer…