Choosing new notebook
Hi, Community Brain. It’s time for me to change my old good Dell Latitude D820. I need performant machine and following the results of my findings. It’s really important for me to know your opinion about those choices. Also, if you have additional choices, I’d be happy to hear about it.
| Dell Precision M6300 | HP 8710W | Lenovo T61p | |
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| Processor | Intel® Core 2 Duo T9500 (2.6GHz, 6Mb, L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) | Intel® Core 2 Duo T9500 (2.6GHz, 6Mb, L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) | Intel® Core 2 Duo T9500 (2.6GHz, 6Mb, L2 cache, 800MHz FSB) |
| Memory | 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2×2048) | 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2×2048) | 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2×2048) |
| Video Card | NVidia® Quadro® FX 3600M (512MB dedicated) | NVidia® Quadro® FX 3600M (512MB dedicated) | NVidia® Quadro® FX 570M (256MB dedicated) |
| Hard Drive | 200GB SATA (7,200RPM) + fall sensor | 200GB SATA (7,200RPM) | 200GB SATA (7,200RPM) + disk encryption |
| Optical device | 8X DVD +/- RW | 8X DVD +/- RW Blue-ray | 8X DVD +/- RW |
| Modem | 56.6k v.92 | 56.6k v.92 | – |
| Wireless Networking | Intel PROWireless 4965 802.11 a/g/Draft-n | Intel® Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n | Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN |
| Bluetooth | Dell Wireless 360 | Intel Bluetooth | Integrated Bluetooth PAN |
| Primary battery | 9 Cell Li-Ion (80 Whr) | 9 Cell Li-Ion w/XPP 3 yr warranty | 9 cell Li-Ion Battery |
| LCD | 17” WUXGA (1920×1200) UltraSharp + anti-glare | 17” WUXGA+WVA (1920×1200) anti-glare | 15.4” WSXGA+ (1920×1200) |
| Weight | 8.5 lbs/3.8 kg | 7.4 lbs/3.4 kg | 7.3 lbs / 3.3 kg |
| Dimensions | 1.6”(H) x 15.5”(W) x 11.3”(D) | 1.3”(H) x 15.4”(W) x 10.8”(D) | 1.4”(H) x 14.1”(W) x 10.4”(D) |
| Cons | I saw Precision series in work – performance is not good enough for such configuration (for comparison, my old Latitude with the same hardware configuration worked much better) | Everyone I asked, tell me, that HP machines are not reliable enough | Keyboard layout is absolutely awful. It impossible to work with Fn and Ctrl swapped. Graphic card is not strong enough It’s 15.4” |
| Pros | It is very reliable | Very good performance Much lighter Good battery life |
Absolutely reliable Great performance Outstanding battery life |
What to do? What to choose? Please advice!
Thank you
July 22nd, 2008 · Comments (16)
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January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
"One think you may want to look at is the warranty : Dell provides cheap next business day on site service for 3 years. Service is very good (at least in France
). With some other constructors, you may have to send your PC back in case of problem, and wait for it to come back. You never want to do that…"
"Unfourchantely, Dell does not provides such service is Israel. It does not providers any service in Israel (see my previous posts, tagged Dell)"
Tamir, unfortunately I am afraid that you are wrong.
If you buy at BUG (computer’s shop at Israel) they provide on-site service, it means, Dell Israel’s man will come to your place in order to fix your notebook (you don’t need to send it or give it to store). As they told me, they tried to get Dell’s reseller license few years in order to provide this service to us. He also states that because the fact that BUG is their official distributor at Israel they’ll get a lower price then any other serious computer’s store at Israel (no name stores is not included at competition
.
Tamir, I am looking for laptop too. I need a good battery life, good keyboard monitor. I am going to use it at least twice a week at train/bus for Office and Visual Studio / GCC. I am not interested in gaming machine – I just don’t have a time to play
Your choices isn’t cheap, why don’t you take some older CPU? Does it really effects performance that you can feel as a human been at Visual Studio / Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Visio) products?
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
I have a Dell 630 for work and I have owned two HP laptops, but my next laptop will be a Macbook Pro. It is presently the fastest windows laptop, and if you install VMware fusion, you can install OSX, several windows versions and Linux.
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
Lenovo’s keyboard layout is obviously a major pain, but you can swap Fn and Ctrl keys by configuration. OTOH, one tend to get quickly adict to the use of the trackpoint’s third button for horizontal scroll (not that it’s not possible with the other, but this was especially designed on this one).
I have HP NC8430 and have no reliability issues to observe. But it depends what you mean with "realiable". Only thing I can mentiond is the border of the screen lid is slightly broken after it accidentally hit a door (it’s not a Lenovo…). It’s light (for its category) and I find the keyboard very confortable to use. It’s getting hot when intensively used, but it’s probably not specific to HP.
When you intend to plug 4 GB RAM, verify the net amount the machine will let you use (it may be lower than 4 GB).
HTH.
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
The M1530 can come with a High Resolution,Glossy widescreen 15.4 inch LCD(1920×1200).
Indeed it comes with a 8600 Card which is pretty good (unless you are YOU – doing graphics all day or playing games
… ).
I just love DELL and the M1530 is a great laptop considering the weight and price of the XPS M1730.
AFAIK The T61 has a 1 gig fast boot memory card which VISTA utilizes and you get great performance for that.
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
Thanks, Dan
Resolution is only 1440×900, which is very low for me
Also display adapter is NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT, which is low end card.
It is very good computer for those who need light stylish machine. But it is not mobile workstation
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
What about the new DELL XPS M1530? doesn’t need a nuclear power station but yet has most of the stuff you need and mentioned above plus a HiDef screen.
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
T Man, do you know dates?
Kim, XPS is absolutely awesome machine, however it cannot be used without nuclear power station nearby. This why I’m not considering it as possible choice. So, still want notebook, not desktop
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
I also have an XPS 1730. 4GB RAM, 2x200GB HDD configured with Raid 0. It’s the best notebook (If you can call it a notebook) I’ve had. Before this one I had the Dell Precision M90 2.33 GHz.
If you don’t mind the weight (the AC adapter is another 1+ kg.) and the battery life I would go for the XPS 1730.
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
Lenovo. A newer T series is coming out that should improve performance even further. Actually Lenovo is going towards what is called the W series, which means workstation. I’d wait if you can, because these will provide a performance boost.
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
Thank you, Pierre
Unfourchantely, Dell does not provides such service is Israel. It does not providers any service in Israel (see my previous posts, tagged Dell)
I agree with you, that Dell is reliable machine. My Latitude works very hard every day, however, it looks like Precision product line has very poor performance…
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
I have a 1.5 year old 17" Dell Precision (Core 2 Duo T7200 2.00GHz, 2Gb RAM, 120 Gb HDD 7200 rpm).
As you say, performance is fair (not stellar), but it is very reliable : I take it with me everyday. Battery life is poor, even the 9 cell battery.
I like the 17" WUXGA (1920×1200) UltraSharp screen very much. I could not use a 15" screen for everyday use.
One think you may want to look at is the warranty : Dell provides cheap next business day on site service for 3 years. Service is very good (at least in France
). With some other constructors, you may have to send your PC back in case of problem, and wait for it to come back. You never want to do that…
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
Pavel, it’s also battery life for XPS
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
I have a DELL XPS 1730, 2.6GHz Core 2 duo, 400GB HD 7200 RPM, 4GB RAM, nVidia 8700 GT 256MB, Ageya PhysX chip,
A real monster.
The only downside – it’s a bit heavy (4.8 kg) – but it’s a laptop and gym all in one.
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
לכן, אני מתלבט קשות
January 1st, 2009 at 12:55 am
שים לב גם לאיכות המסך
לדל יש 3 דרגות איכות שונות ללנובו 2 דרגות שונות
מניסיון ,יש לי
T61p
הוא בעל מסך איכותי ולאחר הותאת השטיויות של לנובו הוא בעל ביצועים מדהימים
אבל לא מזמן חבר הפנה אותי לאותו דגם של דל שאתה הראת ,והוא נראה מבחינת עלות תועלת מדהים
February 19th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
I bought http://www.shopgogo.ca/hp/nc8430.htm hp nc8430 battery , really great, if everyone has the time, then on the next to see Oh, can not miss this good chance!